10-12-2008, 11:32 AM
Posting on behalf of Gary Mair.
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Jeff
From Gary (posting in 2 parts due to the length)
You might also try www.rootsireland.ie ?the web site for Rothe House and the Kilkenny Archealogical Society. ? They have records that even the LDS does not but they charge a fee but have been very helpful. ?We were at a dead end for several years and recently they computerized their records and I found Patrick's (born 1791) parents through them and am considering paying them for a thourough search.
Church Baptism Record
Name: Patrick Purcell Date of Baptism / Birth: 25/02/1791
Address: Not Recorded Parish / District: ST. JOHN'S
Gender: Male County Co. Kilkenny
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: James Purcell Mother: Mary Crany
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Patrick White Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Bridget Cahill
If you would like to look into some records while you are at the LDS try the following film. ?I have attached the following as there was a Purcell /Walsh connection in this record but we only transcribed the Purcell or related records from that film.
Parish of Gowran, Kilkenny Notes
1809-1881 Diocese of Ossory- Baptisms & Marriages
LDS Film # 0926194
Baptisms & Marriages:
Chronological:
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Lawrence Purcell & Catherine Fitzgerald
Mary Muldowney: Mary Brophy 12-12-1809 Patrick
William Purcell Nancy Curran 11-16-1810 Elinor
Mary Forestell
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 Patrick
Michael Purcell Elinor Murphy 02-18-1811 Anne
Mary Cartay??
Patrick Purcell James Hara? 06-03-1811 Patrick
Anne Lawlor Mary Hare?
Joseph Purcell James Dunn 05-20-1811 John
Mary Neal Mary White
James Purcell ? 10-27-1812 Margaret
Bridget Flealy ?
James Purcell ? “
Bridget ? ? Marriage
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
James Flealy Catherine Flealy 03-08-1814 Bridget
Mary Lawlor (illigitamate Daughter)
Lawrence Purcell Wm. Hefferman 04-07-1814 James
Mary Muldowney Bridget M----?
James Purcell James Cocoran 04-17-1814 Catherine
Bridget Flealy Catherine Purcell
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
James Purcell Michael Corrigan 10-07-1816 William
Bridget Flealy Catherine Corrigan 04-07-1816
Pierce Purcell William Byrne 01-19-1817 James
Mary Heany Mary Kiefer (Place; Kilmaecorn)
Michael Purcell Arty Purcell 01-27-1819 Bridget
Mary Whelan Judy Carroll
John Purcell Edward Phelan 11-26-1818 Richard
Mary Phelan Judy Kinsella (Place: Ballyquirk)
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
Michael Purcell Mathew Dormer ?-24-1822 Mary
Mary Phelan Ellin Phelan
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
Nancy Murphy Mary Nolan
Phillip Purcell ? Breen 01-08-1823 William
Margaret Breen Nellie Nolan
James Purcell John Phelan 05-20-1823 Betty
Margaret Carey Judy Kealy
Pierce Purcell John Mullines 05-29-1823 Mary
Honora Cody Judy Maher
James Purcell Charles Carter 05-10-1823 Mary
Mary Phelan Mary Kinscella (Res: Ballyquirk)
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Patrick Purcell David ? 12-22-1825 James
Anne Lawlor Margaret Walsh
Patrick Purcell James Hayden 06-28-1825 Marriage
Mary Hayden Catherine Kialy
John Purcell John ? 02-20-1827 Marriage
Margaret Nowlan Mary Nowlan
Patrick Purcell John Daly 11-01-1828 Elinor
Mary Kialy Margaret Kieger
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
Patrick Purcell ? 02-20-1838 Marriage
Cathereine Kialy
Patrick Quinn Thomas Purcell 07-06-1840 Marriage
Mary Bryan Bridget Dollan
Martin Murphy Michael Murphy 02-18-1849 Marriage
Margaret Purcell Bridget Nolan
John Purcell Patrick Purcell 1877 Marriage
Catherine Walsh Ellen Purcell
DOCUMENTED ANCESTORS:
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Lawrence Purcell & Catherine Fitzgerald
Mary Muldowney: Mary Brophy 12-12-1809 Patrick
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 “
“ “ James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
“ “ Margaret Murphy
“ “ Wm. Hefferman 04-07-1814 James
“ “ Bridget M----?
James Flealy Catherine Flealy 03-08-1814 Bridget
Mary Lawlor (illigitamate Daughter)
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
“ Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
“ Mary Nolan
(Residence Franstown)
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
(Residence Naystown) <It is interesting that we have a Patrick & Ann & Nancy as in the St. Columban Census records Ann is listed as the spouse yet in his will for the same property - she is listed as “Nancy my Wife?????> is this a translation problem??? Especially since the witnesses are exactly the same???
Patrick Purcell James Fitzgerald 07-13-Yr. not known Bridget
Mary Muldowney Margaret Ryan (Is this a problem with the translation - we go from Lawrence to Patrick & still have a Fitzgerald - see number 1)???)
Lawrence Purcell ? 1840 Mary
Catherine Medlar
AboveAncestors)- documented
LISTING BY SPONSOR - POSSIBLE FAMILY CONNECTIONS:
Murphy:
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 Patrick
Michael Purcell Elinor Murphy 02-18-1811 Anne
Mary Cartay??
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
Nancy Murphy Mary Nolan
Martin Murphy Michael Murphy 02-18-1849 Marriage
Margaret Purcell Bridget Nolan
Muldowny:
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Purcell:
James Purcell James Cocoran 04-17-1814 Catherine
Bridget Flealy Catherine Purcell
Michael Purcell Arty Purcell 01-27-1819 Bridget
Mary Whelan Judy Carroll
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
Patrick Purcell ? 02-20-1838 Marriage
Cathereine Kialy
Patrick Quinn Thomas Purcell 07-06-1840 Marriage
Mary Bryan Bridget Dollan
John Purcell Patrick Purcell 1877 Marriage
Catherine Walsh Ellen Purcell
PHELAN:
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
John Purcell Edward Phelan 11-26-1818 Richard
Mary Phelan Judy Kinsella (Place: Ballyquirk)
James Purcell John Phelan 05-20-1823 Betty
Margaret Carey Judy Kealy
Michael Purcell Mathew Dormer ?-24-1822 Mary
Mary Phelan Ellin Phelan
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan
Just a reminder folks to login to the forum to post a response and do not reply to the notification emails. These are just to alert you to a new posting.
Jeff
From Gary (posting in 2 parts due to the length)
You might also try www.rootsireland.ie ?the web site for Rothe House and the Kilkenny Archealogical Society. ? They have records that even the LDS does not but they charge a fee but have been very helpful. ?We were at a dead end for several years and recently they computerized their records and I found Patrick's (born 1791) parents through them and am considering paying them for a thourough search.
Church Baptism Record
Name: Patrick Purcell Date of Baptism / Birth: 25/02/1791
Address: Not Recorded Parish / District: ST. JOHN'S
Gender: Male County Co. Kilkenny
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: James Purcell Mother: Mary Crany
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Patrick White Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Bridget Cahill
If you would like to look into some records while you are at the LDS try the following film. ?I have attached the following as there was a Purcell /Walsh connection in this record but we only transcribed the Purcell or related records from that film.
Parish of Gowran, Kilkenny Notes
1809-1881 Diocese of Ossory- Baptisms & Marriages
LDS Film # 0926194
Baptisms & Marriages:
Chronological:
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Lawrence Purcell & Catherine Fitzgerald
Mary Muldowney: Mary Brophy 12-12-1809 Patrick
William Purcell Nancy Curran 11-16-1810 Elinor
Mary Forestell
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 Patrick
Michael Purcell Elinor Murphy 02-18-1811 Anne
Mary Cartay??
Patrick Purcell James Hara? 06-03-1811 Patrick
Anne Lawlor Mary Hare?
Joseph Purcell James Dunn 05-20-1811 John
Mary Neal Mary White
James Purcell ? 10-27-1812 Margaret
Bridget Flealy ?
James Purcell ? “
Bridget ? ? Marriage
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
James Flealy Catherine Flealy 03-08-1814 Bridget
Mary Lawlor (illigitamate Daughter)
Lawrence Purcell Wm. Hefferman 04-07-1814 James
Mary Muldowney Bridget M----?
James Purcell James Cocoran 04-17-1814 Catherine
Bridget Flealy Catherine Purcell
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
James Purcell Michael Corrigan 10-07-1816 William
Bridget Flealy Catherine Corrigan 04-07-1816
Pierce Purcell William Byrne 01-19-1817 James
Mary Heany Mary Kiefer (Place; Kilmaecorn)
Michael Purcell Arty Purcell 01-27-1819 Bridget
Mary Whelan Judy Carroll
John Purcell Edward Phelan 11-26-1818 Richard
Mary Phelan Judy Kinsella (Place: Ballyquirk)
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
Michael Purcell Mathew Dormer ?-24-1822 Mary
Mary Phelan Ellin Phelan
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
Nancy Murphy Mary Nolan
Phillip Purcell ? Breen 01-08-1823 William
Margaret Breen Nellie Nolan
James Purcell John Phelan 05-20-1823 Betty
Margaret Carey Judy Kealy
Pierce Purcell John Mullines 05-29-1823 Mary
Honora Cody Judy Maher
James Purcell Charles Carter 05-10-1823 Mary
Mary Phelan Mary Kinscella (Res: Ballyquirk)
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Patrick Purcell David ? 12-22-1825 James
Anne Lawlor Margaret Walsh
Patrick Purcell James Hayden 06-28-1825 Marriage
Mary Hayden Catherine Kialy
John Purcell John ? 02-20-1827 Marriage
Margaret Nowlan Mary Nowlan
Patrick Purcell John Daly 11-01-1828 Elinor
Mary Kialy Margaret Kieger
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
Patrick Purcell ? 02-20-1838 Marriage
Cathereine Kialy
Patrick Quinn Thomas Purcell 07-06-1840 Marriage
Mary Bryan Bridget Dollan
Martin Murphy Michael Murphy 02-18-1849 Marriage
Margaret Purcell Bridget Nolan
John Purcell Patrick Purcell 1877 Marriage
Catherine Walsh Ellen Purcell
DOCUMENTED ANCESTORS:
Parents: Sponsors: Date: Childs Name:
Lawrence Purcell & Catherine Fitzgerald
Mary Muldowney: Mary Brophy 12-12-1809 Patrick
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 “
“ “ James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
“ “ Margaret Murphy
“ “ Wm. Hefferman 04-07-1814 James
“ “ Bridget M----?
James Flealy Catherine Flealy 03-08-1814 Bridget
Mary Lawlor (illigitamate Daughter)
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
“ Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
“ Mary Nolan
(Residence Franstown)
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
(Residence Naystown) <It is interesting that we have a Patrick & Ann & Nancy as in the St. Columban Census records Ann is listed as the spouse yet in his will for the same property - she is listed as “Nancy my Wife?????> is this a translation problem??? Especially since the witnesses are exactly the same???
Patrick Purcell James Fitzgerald 07-13-Yr. not known Bridget
Mary Muldowney Margaret Ryan (Is this a problem with the translation - we go from Lawrence to Patrick & still have a Fitzgerald - see number 1)???)
Lawrence Purcell ? 1840 Mary
Catherine Medlar
AboveAncestors)- documented
LISTING BY SPONSOR - POSSIBLE FAMILY CONNECTIONS:
Murphy:
Lawrence Purcell ? Murphy
Mary Muldowney Mary Murphy 11-01-1810 Patrick
Michael Purcell Elinor Murphy 02-18-1811 Anne
Mary Cartay??
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 1822 Bridget
Nancy Murphy Bridget Bryne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Murphy 09-22-1822 Mary
Ann Murphy Bridget Byrne
Patrick Purcell Thomas Carney 10-25-1823 John
Nancy Murphy Mary Nolan
Martin Murphy Michael Murphy 02-18-1849 Marriage
Margaret Purcell Bridget Nolan
Muldowny:
Patrick Purcell James Muldowney 01-12,1813 Bridget
Anne Lawlor Mary Murphy
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Purcell:
James Purcell James Cocoran 04-17-1814 Catherine
Bridget Flealy Catherine Purcell
Michael Purcell Arty Purcell 01-27-1819 Bridget
Mary Whelan Judy Carroll
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
James Muldowney ? Muldowney 02-14-1821 Arty
Mary Ryan Eliza Purcell
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan
James Meany Patrick Purcell 05-20-1833 Marriage
Mary Purcell Mary Purcell
Patrick Purcell ? 02-20-1838 Marriage
Cathereine Kialy
Patrick Quinn Thomas Purcell 07-06-1840 Marriage
Mary Bryan Bridget Dollan
John Purcell Patrick Purcell 1877 Marriage
Catherine Walsh Ellen Purcell
PHELAN:
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
John Purcell Edward Phelan 11-26-1818 Richard
Mary Phelan Judy Kinsella (Place: Ballyquirk)
James Purcell John Phelan 05-20-1823 Betty
Margaret Carey Judy Kealy
Michael Purcell Mathew Dormer ?-24-1822 Mary
Mary Phelan Ellin Phelan
Lawrence Purcell James Phelan 02-15-1813 Elizabeth
Mary Muldowney Margaret Murphy
Tobias Purcell William Purcell 02-19-1823 Marriage
Mary Walsh Margaret Phelan